It's been a while since I read some of the latter books. I know I read AtWoP once, but it's been too long. TWD wasn't a favorite of mine either (*ducks*) so I only read it once.
Seems everyone knows about the machines that have corrosive acid and flames. Two types. Sometimes mixed up. That's what I gathered from reading some quotes and a little skimming. Afterall, if you have Thread in a forest, it's probably better to kill it with acid than with fire.
Post by sweetlilangel on Jul 12, 2011 20:28:48 GMT -8
Page 354 of "All the Weyrs of Pern" walks you through a detailed dissection of one of the thread capsules.
As far as the acid, it could just be a detail I missed. I've only read a few books in comparison to how many are written. ( Lessa and F'lar's story line and one of the newer ones and Harper Hall trilogy to be precise) So it's fully possible I missed it or got them mixed up.
I think even in the books they get mixed up. I think it's most likely that the Queens' Wing have ignitable machines and ground crews have both fire and corrosive liquids at their disposal.
I remember them with the Thread capsule. Not what it was like though.
Post by sweetlilangel on Jul 12, 2011 20:40:39 GMT -8
If I had it in ebook I'd quote it, but it's a kind of long section to type it out..
In reference to the the acid/flame.. in DragonHeart, there is reference to the flamethrower being volatile as the old firestone, (takes place just after they discovered the mines of the true firestone.) and wanting to develop something safer... so seems likely both did exist.
Post by Jay Kitten on Jul 14, 2011 10:36:08 GMT -8
Honestly I didn't like AtWoP or TWD either. Jaxom is kind of annoying, in my opinion, his naive approach to just about EVERYTHING is kind of tiring after TWD. I'm surprised he had as many girlfriends as he did, then again being the Lord Holder of Ruatha it's probably easy to get the ladies. In the books they seemed to go for powerful men all the time, so it's not like it was anything new by the time he was doing it. xD
Anyway, I tend to shy away from anything AVAIS related or high-technology. I did want to read the books about the first falls and the colonists, though, and I never got around to it. Seeing as my package containing my stuff from California *finally* arrived, though, I'm going to be more concerned with my physics book *huggles* than anything.
But as for the whole thing about firelizards and genetically altering them... Well, it's a good point that in order to get dragons, you would need a creature similar to use, and splice it's size gene and behavior genes specifically, neglecting the appearance gene. But it was to my understanding that although dragons act the way they do, firelizards were like that first. Unless the original firelizards didn't Impress, and didn't have Queens? I'm not sure if that was a process of the genetically superior flitters you were talking about that were modified too, or if that was a natural occurrence for them.
Although if you were making a dragon from scratch, I would say cross a winged insect (preferably one with hide instead of chitin) with a chicken. Voila, dragon. Might look funny though.
Tiger Cirryyth of Weyrharper V'ridian Black Sunristh of Weyrling A'kai Blood Zojiroth of Candidate Master Moraiya Lavender and her fading Starlight Fayzeth Elraishsa of the Wild Rowensae and Pscittasch Lylore the Strange Oldbies: R'nos, Felora, K'cin, S'nire(deceased)
Yeah, I thought Jaxom was a jerk/sleaze. Also kind of dumb. Getting firehead going between. -rolls eyes- Didn't the kid have to go to weyrling lessons? xP
I love how no one really spells AIVAS right. I thought it was AVAIS for a while, or AVIAS. It's "Artificial Intelligence Voice Address System", I can only remember the right order now 'cause of that. xP
Jay, the original firelizards had tridactyl claws (three digits) like pincers. The colonists first engineered five-digit claw flitts and then used that for dragons too. The tridactyl flitts I don't think existed long after the genetic change by the colonist, so they must have been out competed by the pentadactyls. Originally flitts had Golds.
Well, maybe a chicken and another bird. Chicken body structure is crap for flying. A turkey is much better. They're just a lot dumber than chickens.
Post by Jay Kitten on Jul 14, 2011 10:51:17 GMT -8
I agree actually, I think a turkey has the body structure one would look for in a dragon much more than a chicken.
On another note, near my friend's house, there's a guy with live turkeys in his suburban yard. Two of them.
Nobody knows why.
I don't think he's trying to eat them.
Tiger Cirryyth of Weyrharper V'ridian Black Sunristh of Weyrling A'kai Blood Zojiroth of Candidate Master Moraiya Lavender and her fading Starlight Fayzeth Elraishsa of the Wild Rowensae and Pscittasch Lylore the Strange Oldbies: R'nos, Felora, K'cin, S'nire(deceased)
In the neighborhood where my college is there's a house that has four chickens always in their enclosed run and house area. I like to stop there when I'm walking by and look at them.
Post by Jay Kitten on Jul 15, 2011 22:38:46 GMT -8
I actually like her older stuff a lot better, before the science mattered, when everything seemed primitive and agrarian, for some reason she went on a weird bend with it. Either way, science was better left vague as it was in the early books, not to be confused with the books about the early (as in the colonists from Earth).
Besides, a lot of things went unsaid in her works anyway, you were left guessing things about the founders of each Hold when they would mention them in passing and stuff like that.
Tiger Cirryyth of Weyrharper V'ridian Black Sunristh of Weyrling A'kai Blood Zojiroth of Candidate Master Moraiya Lavender and her fading Starlight Fayzeth Elraishsa of the Wild Rowensae and Pscittasch Lylore the Strange Oldbies: R'nos, Felora, K'cin, S'nire(deceased)
Post by Jay Kitten on Jul 15, 2011 22:47:25 GMT -8
Hawhaw. I think I like DRoP a lot more for Regganith than I ever did for F'lar. He was annoying. F'nor even more so. Lol. I just liked all the stuff about dragons and the other stuff that made my young imagination soar. Even now I can vividly picture Menoly on the beach at Half-Circle, as sharp as my imagination was when I was 11 or 12.
Tiger Cirryyth of Weyrharper V'ridian Black Sunristh of Weyrling A'kai Blood Zojiroth of Candidate Master Moraiya Lavender and her fading Starlight Fayzeth Elraishsa of the Wild Rowensae and Pscittasch Lylore the Strange Oldbies: R'nos, Felora, K'cin, S'nire(deceased)
I don't think I would describe here as radical non-canon though. ...I mean, compared to some other more extremely non-canon places. I think to think of us as "light to mid non-canon"...
I've only read a few books in comparison to how many are written. ( Lessa and F'lar's story line and one of the newer ones and Harper Hall trilogy to be precise) So it's fully possible I missed it or got them mixed up. 